Agra Muslim families deny changing faith, slam Hindu groups
Agra, 10 Dec 2014 About 57 Muslim families contested on Tuesday hard-line Hindu groups Dharma Jagaran Manch and Bajrang Dal’s claim that they have switched to Hinduism, saying they were tricked into a conversion event couched as a “homecoming ceremony” in Agra.
“We were not aware that it was an exercise to convert us to Hinduism. We are Muslims and would continue to be so,” said Noor Mohammad, one of the people who alleged that the two Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh offshoots had lured them into Monday’s programme to collect BPL and ration cards.
The Bajrang Dal said the families “reconverted to their original faith” at the event after having embraced Islam some 25 years ago.
The so-called new converts, who eke out a living by picking rags and doing odd jobs, live in the Ved Nagar area on Devri Road of Agra. This colony of poor people is inhabited mostly by Hindu Dalits and the Muslim families, comprising 300 members, who had migrated from Bengal and Bihar.
“What is the difference between Allah and Bhagwan? We are Muslim and never converted to Hinduism and would remain Muslim,” said Sufia Begum, 60.
Muneera, a woman who stayed away from the ritual, said people were converted so that they give their consent to build a Kali temple on a plot owned by Muslims.
Neighbour Jehangir said he went because he was promised a ration card.
The rebuff caught many off guard because they saw Ismail Siddique, popular as thekedar (contractor) change to Raj Kumar on Monday and pledge to worship Hindu deities. The new converts were apparently given an idol of Kali after a ritualistic purification prayer.
Ismail on Tuesday denied having changed his faith. “We are Muslims and never converted to Hinduism.”
Red-faced organisers of the function promptly blamed “pressure from outside to reverse their reconversion”.
Ajju Chauhan, a Bajrang Dal functionary, said no force, coercion or lure of BPL and ration cards were used to bring people to the camp, considered a dry run to a massive function with a similar agenda lined up for December 25 in Aligarh.
The Vishwa Hindu Parishad and the Bajrang Dal insisted that such functions be called homecoming, not conversion, ceremonies. “I strongly object to this term conversion. Why don’t you call it homecoming?” asked Prakash Sharma, former national convenor of Bajrang Dal.“Go back in history, at least four-five generations; you will see your ancestors were all Hindu. Then, is it homecoming or not?” he said. (With inputs from Haidar Naqvi in Kanpur)—-Hindustan Times
We were misled into conversion in a Bajrang Dal exercise: Muslim families
Agra, 10 Dec 2014 : The 57 Muslim families, who were “converted” to Hinduism in a Bajrang Dal exercise in Agra, said Tuesday they were misled into believing that the programme was for registering them as BPL families, and not for religious conversion. While the families admitted that they had told “pujaris” at the conversion programme Monday that they were “changing their religion” of their own volition, they said they did so out of fear of violence.
Representatives of the Bajrang Dal however said the conversion programme had happened “out in the open”, and the families had changed tack under duress.—The Indian Express.
Lure of ration cards led to Agra ‘reconversion’?
AGRA, 10 Dec 2014 : A day after a group of around 200 Muslims in Madhunagar slum-cluster here claimed they had “reconverted” to Hinduism, many of them on Tuesday said they were still Muslims, with some admitting that they had joined the RSS and Bajrang Dal-organized ‘ghar vapsi’ ceremony after being promised ration cards and houses. The saffron outfits, though, rubbished this claim, saying there was no inducement for “reconversion”.
Farhan, a slum dweller, said, “If 40 people in saffron scarves come and stand on your head, you will do just as they want.” Farhan was among those who had taken part in the puja, washed the feet of Hindu gods and also briefly worn vermillion on his forehead. On Tuesday, though, he said it was all for getting those men in “saffron scarves” off his back.
The re-conversion event was painted as “ghar vapsi” or re-conversion of Muslims who had Hindu ancestry. It was organized by the Dharma Jagran Samanvay Vibhag, an offshoot of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh and Bajrang Dal. A ‘shuddhikaran hawan’ was also performed in the slum.
Bajrang Dal functionary Ajju Chauhan said the re-conversion had indeed taken place, and if the people were denying it, it was out of fear. “All these people have Hindu ancestors. They just did ‘ghar vapsi’,” he said, adding, “They were not lured by ration cards or houses. They wanted to lead clean lives.”
District magistrate Pankaj Kumar and SSP Shalabh Mathur said no one had approached them in connection with the re-conversion event.—The Times of India
La haul wala quwat ……
If conversion into hinduism should be called as “home coming” then conversion of Hindus to Islam should be called as “out going”.
Kya muslamano ko ye man lena chahiye ki bjp government mein uska is desh mein jine ka koi haq nhi?? Kya bjp government aur prime minister ki soch BAGRAN DAL aur RSS ki soch hai?? Kya PM RSS AUR BAGRANG DAL ko sath lakr sbka sath sbka vikas ka vada pura kr payenge????kya mere kisi sawal ka jwab hai is desh ke sbse badi party ke PM ke pass??
how many days u will shout like puppy.All the election ballot machine is really tampered .are u sure that their was no fake votings at all.first u should know a simple text message can change your vote it very easy.indian democracy is high level drama.bander ke haath mein nariyal agaya hai wo tod ke hi dum lega.so be prepare for your self defence .ismey apka bhi ikas phir sabka vikas.ITNEY GIR GAYE HO KI KAFIRS SEY HAQ MANGOO.khan saheb PAKHTUNO WALI baat karen.
Tu Ne Kya Dekha Nahin Maghrib Ka Jumhoori Nizam
Chehra Roshan, Androon Changaiz Se Tareek Tar!
Have you not observed the democratic system of the West?
With a brilliant exterior, its interior is darker than Genghis’s.
Is raaz ko ek mard e farangi ne kiya fash
harchand ke dana ise khola nahi karte
Jamhooriyat ek tarj e huqoomat hai jisme
Bando ko gina karte hai tola nahi karte
Zafar Bhai sahi kaha aapne
Buto se tujhko ummeede Khudase na Ummeedi
Mujhe bata to sahi aur kafiri kya hai
If the electoral ballot machines are tampered you are free to go to pakistan where the machines are free from any tampering. But there they will tamper your mind and make you a talibani terrorist.
Please, for God’s sake, don’t commit the same mistake in commenting that PMNM is coercing on his audience on a very “shrewdly selective” basis, aka, cherry picking, a la Americans, of presuming that all Indians, as of 12/11/14 know/understand, and they must, a la PMNM/BJP/RSS, Hindi/Urdu/Hindustani. It is yet not true, inside India, or, within the Indian diaspora in US/UK/Australia/ME, which is a major contributor for funding Hindutva, BJP, RSS, PMNM, and others in their rank. I still have 50-60 year old friendship with some of them who won’t understand your comment. Further, by policy of legal , registration qualifies MM as a Muslim-run English language (not Hinglish) Newspaper. I don’t agree with violating this sensitivity. If you disagree, ignore my note. Just remember, “never underestimate your readers/customers/clients/audience”! Before penning anything, always remember that PMNM is having private tutoring lessons from Israel/USA/our cousins everywhere, who are wathing all of us on a 7/24 basis, so to say. Did you read today about CIA report? Beware!
For those whose interest has been aroused by my “ahead of time” comment, Here is a msample from one of the most recognized names (his wife is from Pakistan):
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That the release in Washington of a dense 450 page report on CIA torture conducted a decade ago would provoke massive demonstrations in the Middle East all along struck me as unlikely. It could perhaps provoke small terrorist groups affiliated with al-Qaeda, but those groups are already plotting out attacks on US embassies and it is a little unlikely that they would suddenly be more motivated by this report, which doesn’t contain anything they did not already know or suspect.
Washington has invented its own ersatz Middle East, which bears little resemblance to the actual one, and which is mainly used to score points in inside-the-Beltway debates.
Most Egyptians appear to have been traumatized by the year (2012-2013) of Muslim Brotherhood rule, and support for the Brotherhood is likely at an all time low. They have been quite unfairly branded a terrorist organization, and groups much to their right, such as Ansar Bayt al-Maqdis and al-Qaeda itself are even more unpopular and are pursued by the powerful Egyptian military. Many Egyptian youth have demonstrated against torture, and most of them don’t like it when applied to Egyptians by the military government. But since there isn’t much sympathy in Egypt for extremist fundamentalism, most Egyptians would be neither surprised nor particularly outraged that the US was torturing al-Qaeda types.
One initial reaction to the Senate report was an article in the Cairo pressdrawing on remarks of expatriate Egyptians, which pointed out that Egypt has been implicated in the CIA black site torture. That is, rather than anger toward the US, this article implicitly criticizes the government of then president Hosni Mubarak in Egypt itself, both for torturing and for doing it on behalf of the United States. Another such article in Tahrir Newscovered the whole torture scandal, So far, the main Egyptian reaction seems to be vindication that they overthrew the torturing, toadying government of Mubarak.
Meanwhile, another major US ally, Israel, was also implicated. The left-leaning daily Haaretz reported that the CIA torturers justified their actions with regard to Israeli Supreme Court rulings on the permissibility of torture.
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Related video added by Juan Cole:
Social TV: ” Ishai Menuchin – On Torture in Israel”
Dear Mohammed, thanks for sharing the your thoughts, but as far as truth is concerned one has to come forward and say the truth, otherwise future generation will never forgive us, we are not supporting or representing any terror group nor we are traitors, we are more partriots than those who are calling themselves, we are equally responsible in building this nation, and our forefathers were among freedom struggle, we want our rights with pride and will live our rest our lives in this country, on our believes and faith, as Indian Constitution given rights, no need to worry but built strong faith and believes in Allah.
Very well said, Zameer. I have never been a person who will not say what he thinks/sees. Or, he would say what he sees, not because it is the right thing to do. He does so because of the way of life that he has been blessed with, viz. Islam, Quran, Hadith, and their secondary, tertiary explanatory sources (in translations). All these require of him to bow down/submit to Allah, not to what He created. Freedom to task all MM readers to be TASKED is a pre-requisite for being free. In TASKED, T stands for “think”, A for “analyze”, S for “synthesize”, K for “know”, E for “educate”, and D for “develop”. If Muslims all over the world, irrespective of being in minority or majority, adopted my humble suggestion-cum-submission, nobody will hate them. The entire humanity will adore them. It is so sad that Muslims of South Africa (SA), where they don’t even constitute 1-2 % of the nation’s population sends its ambassador to US, who is a proactive practitioner of Islam, his personal faith, and nobody questions his “patriotism” for SA. Let PMNM, RSS, BJP take some tips from here. They should not forget that Gandhi, not Godse, had originally been groomed for freeing India. Thank God, most of Muslim freedom fighters, including Azad, were locally groomed maulanas, without whom India’s freedom would have been ……
I feel these RSS guys are suffering from severe inferiority complex and that is why they are doing such stupid things.They want to show to their followers that people from other religion are coming back to Hinduism and for this these goons are doing all the crazy fake things.l pity their insanity.
Actually they are not able to give fare treatment to those who are already hindu and they want to convert new people from other religion. This shows that BPL and Adhaar is more power full than those boot. This is what Ibrahim Alaihi Assalam has said to Namrood.
Each religion has a different school of thoughts. It does not matter which religion people follow as all the religion are for maintaining order in society. But for India as a nation Islam and Christianity will not be helpful .If some one follow a foreign religion it does not matter as long as he follows the religion in true spirit to achieve social order. The problem arises when there is a conflict in different thoughts. When some religion mentions that its philosophy is supreme and all other are fake its is bound to create conflict.Some religious preachers (Christians) convert people by convincing them that they (Hindus) are on the wrong path. It is bound to create conflict. And when there is a conflict it will surely lead to division of society. And when society divide nation will break. And when nation breaks it leads to war. War disturbs the social order. Hence the primary duty of religion to maintain social order is defeated. The losers are all the religion and the followers , the winners are the religious leaders.
Hinduism or Sanatan dharma is not at all religion. It is the methodology which tells how to rule, it was brought by Euresians to India. Like other countries India should be ruled by Indians irrespective of their religion or cast.
But who will teach this to RSS chaddi walas ?
RSS have distorted the history of India and their methodology and given the new RSS ideology by giving a color to them.
Even they funded media to carrying forward their ideology.
see , I told u , u r an iletrate .. Princely states existed way before Mughals even came to India and same with the ” EURASIA’S ” , Kingdom rule still exists in Middle east so how come our religion tell us how to u … their is no democracy in gulf .. so i think we r not like wat u think
If you can’t convince them, then confuse them…….it seems this is your current strategy……..
Aghori ban ke tapasya karo.literate ho jaogay.cannibalism se bahut taste ata how u can eat beaf.
yes they existed but they belonged to indigenous Dravadians not to you bigoted invaders aryans who were the pied-piper of casteism in india.
Six months after Pune techie Mohsin Sheikh was bludgeoned to death, allegedly by activists of the Hindu Rashtra Sena (HRS), Hindutva organisations in Pune have announced they would honour HRS chief Dhananjay Desai with ‘Hindutva Shaurya Puraskar [Hindutva Bravery Award]’.
What a startling disclosue and shocking news being aired in ABP News & other TV channels in response to #GharWapsi
RSS & its affiliated organisations love for motherland is bogus, patent lies. They in the name of Ghar Wapsi have provided Voter Cards, Ration Card, Aadhar Cards to bangladeshi nationals residing illegally in India. It poses a big security threat to the well being of India.
Weren’t these the same people who lamasted Congress led UPA for not driving these people out of India? What happened to their “nationalism & patriotism” ?
How can a so called “social organisation” like RSS grant Indian Citizenship to foreigners though Voter Card, Ration Card, Aadhar Card ??
Now, Modi Govt should book these people for TREASON; for waging a war against India.