Dr Muhammad Ajmal
There is no need for an introduction on Zakir Naik, everyone knows him – he is one of the well known Islamic public speakers world over who was recently awarded King Faisal award, the most prestigious award for Islamic activities globally. He is a very known personality in the world, being recognized and rewarded not as a terrorist or Terrorist supporter but as a Muslim Intellectual.
Although a Medical Doctor by profession, he chose to dedicate his life for clarifying the message of Islam to the masses. Yes he was a Muslim Evangelist and being a Evangelist is not a Constitutional Crime.
Why as an Indian you need to support Zakir Naik ?
It is understandable that people are having differences over his style, content, and a lot of other things. But he is a speaker, who speaks with clarity, giving equal chance for anyone else to speak in the same breath. He doesn’t shout you out as today’s news journalists like Arnab Goswami are. Nor has he called for rapes, murders, etc, which is common among Sanghis. Those who are good at speech could well challenge him and debate with him like wise. If there is resentment, then they can as well make a compliant at a police station to lodge a case and let the courts decide justly & constitutionally.
The reasoning that, he inspired terrorism is laughable & foolish enough for everyone to see through it. He has spoken against terrorism, has called IS as unIslamic, but media under the influence of Sanghis, are presenting doctored videos to falsifying and demonize him.
Anders Breivik, the Norwegian Nazi, who killed more than 70 people – in his manifesto hailed RSS, Sangh Pariwar. To quote – “Breivik lists the websites of the Bharatiya Janata Party, the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, the National Volunteers’ Organisation, the Akhil Bharatiya Vidyarthi Parishad and the Vishwa Hindu Parishad as resources for further information. The manifesto pledges military support “to the nationalists in the Indian civil war and in the deportation of all Muslims from India.”
Will the Govt or the Media stand up and have RSS / Sangh Pariwar banned for being a Inspiration to the mass killer ? or Are there dual laws in this country or are we hidden hypocrites..??
There are millions of Muslims and Non Muslims alike who have seen his videos, almost none has gone on to become Terrorists, but majority 99.999% of them are opposing killing of Innocents which is what Terrorism is. Today, what we are seeing in the media and also among the Sanghi brigade is to curtail the voice of an India not by legal or constitutional means, but by creating a Mob mania. Does it bode well for India.?
No it does not. India as such is a land of diversity where we live by tolerating & accepting differences. The day we deny this diversity and want to bring in uniformity, our idea of a nation of diversity ceases to exit. Today it is Zakir Naik being stopped from speaking by unconstitutional means, tomorrow it could well be you. Any speech or thought – be it on poverty, illiteracy, exploitation or anything in which there might be difference of opinion – has equal risk of being curtailed without any legal process.
You are not promoting Zakir Naik by standing up for him, but you are protecting yours and others constitutional rights including free speech, least it be snatched off from you later on, through similar means. Remember its not we only who are minorities in India but every caste and every thought against these Sanghis, is a minority. You by supporting what is correct give justice a chance when those who have blood on their hands room free.
Why as a Muslim you need to support Zakir Naik..?
As Muslims living in India, even though we differ a lot in terms of religious issues split by Sunnis, Shias, Barelwis, Salafis, etc – our challenges in India are the same. We are a minority who has been questioned for patriotism day in and day out, made to feel like second class citizens in a land we were born. We are denied on a daily basis our constitutional rights and discriminated in almost every field including housing, jobs, etc. We have been oppressed, killed, burnt by the same Sanghis without any discrimination whether we are Sunnis or Shias, or Sufis or Salafis..
It is beyond a shred of doubt that those who are orchestrating this whole show are the same people who have heaped misery on every Muslim from Babri Masjid to Gujarat Riots – who killed our men, raped our women and burned our children. Have we all forgotten this.??
Yes some talks of Zakir Naik might have hurt you but you very well know that your own local masjid scholar, speaks worse of other Muslim groups. But never did Zakir Naik have sectarian topics for lectures as our scholars do He just answered few questions which were asked of him in a way he believes to be correct. The issue here is not about Zakir Naik alone but about Indian Muslims as a whole. The legacy of Zakir Naik is not of sectarianism, which some people from Barelwis, Shias, Salafi Madkhalis are making out into. The image below amply conveys what these short sighted, bigoted groups are upto.
Today the attacks and the talk banning is on an educated, intellectual Muslim, who can argue to defend himself. Tomorrow these attacks and silencing will happen to our other scholars and ordinary Muslims – and at that time we will have already lost the battle.
The legacy of Zakir Naik was to stand up and provide the Muslim Ummah with valid, logical, understandable arguments when Muslims were ashamed to call themselves Muslims. Post Zakir Naik era, we the Muslims masses of India knew, we had evidences, be it science or comparative religion. If we could not give an answer to the attacks on Islam, we could just buy a Zakir Naik CD and convince him or at least silence him.
The only crime Zakir Naik can be accused of, is to make you feel proud of being a Muslim, at a time when being Muslim was not only unfashionable but even looked down upon as objectionable.
The Sanghi Media and few secular name sake Muslim, who donot practice Islam want to ridicule and make fun of him. But mind you, it is not to berate him alone – but to prevent you from looking up to religious men and go a step further in making you like themselves – non practicing-secular-namesake Muslim. They want you to follow a Kamal Ataturk model of Islam, which remain only in name and not in practice. But let them also know, that Kamal Ataturk model of Islam failed in Turkey and it will fail in India also.
Being a practicing Muslim is not a crime by Constitution – but its an obligation we owe to God, with a hope of reward in the Here-After. Let us Muslims not get distracted by those who have “no concept of Hereafter” (Disbelievers) or those who “do not practice Islam forgetting the hereafter” (Sinners & Evil Doers) or those who “have sold the hereafter for some flimsy worldly gains” (Hypocrites and Misguiders) who have openly joined Sanghis in this battle against Muslims.
Its time that we realize the greater challenge we are facing. You stand up for Zakir Naik not because of the noise and propaganda surrounding Zakir Naik but because you want to be a better Indian Muslim who is allowed full rights to practice and propagate his religion as per the rights enshrined in our Constitution.
(Author is a Medical Practitioner and promotes Ethical Islamic Investments among Indian Muslims through the firm WealthCity)
times now is no more news channel it as become new court room which gives it verdict based on false information unlike Indian judiciary system which take all the cognizance matter before naming some one guilty.
I agree with the article and we support Dr. Zakir Naik.
had lot of respect to times now earlier past 1 year but now it have changed the values of journalism and became agents for few organization or people. very sad
JazakAllak. What an article.Right on the mark at this time. Good you refreshed our memory by recalling that gruesome incident of Anders Breivik, who killed more than 70 people where he hailed RSS, Sangh Pariwar.Sold indian media has become a tool in the hands of govt.Time for muslims to unite at this crucial juncture.
I do agree with Article , Indian muslims are facing grave threat from Institutional Hindutva .
I support Zakir for his bold and fair speech against Kufr and Shirk.
Indian media is infested with Hindutva terrorist ideology under pretext of Nationalism , TimesNow is working as RSS mouthpiece
Nice in fact very nice article indeed, why now people are behind Doctor Zakir Naik, what wrong he did ??
TimesNow, ZeeTV! Stop hate preaching against Muslims. Stop demonizing Muslims
Why you should not support Zakir Naik?
1) He is an innovator (mubtadi’). He practices things which have never been practiced by the companions of prophets or currently practiced by the acknowledged Muslim scholars of today.
2) In a well known Hadith Prophet Muhammad has prohibited his companion Umar (R) not to handle other people’s scriptures. Even though Prophet Muhammad claimed that he was foretold in previous scriptures he never tried to prove it by examining other people’s scriptures or encouraged others to do so even when he had a chance.
3) If Zakir Naik methods are so great why it is not promoted or practiced by the Arab Islamic learning centers?
4) Freedom of faith is not a one way road. Will Muslim countries allow proponents of other faiths to do to Islam what Zakir Naik does to them? I believe they should not. Nor should they allow Zakir to do it!
5) Who are ready to support the following statements of Zakir Naik?
“there is no death penalty for apostates in Islam, until the apostate starts to preach against islamic teachings; then he can be put to death”
“regarding building of churches or temples, how can we allow this when their religion is wrong and when their worshiping is wrong?”
(References from Wikipedia)
6) Zakir methods will breed only resentment in other religious followers and a false sense of superiority in members of Muslim community, thus affecting inter-religious harmony. For example as an Indian Muslim I consider Zakir Naik to be a great nuisance to Indian Muslims, creating religious discord and worsening Muslim’s situation there, all for nothing. If he had done something to better the position of Indian Muslims it would have been welcome, which of course is not his cup of tea.
Dr. Zakir is well-known for debating Kuffar and trying to bring them back to Islaam. However once you accept Islaam, then you will go through another training of knowing how to worship Allaah. In short we have strategy to apply medicine based on the disease.
Give me one example where Prophet or his companions quoted from other people’s scriptures to preach Islam?
I agree that it is not the way of Prophet Muhammad (sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) to convey Islam.
That is great acknowledgment. Also think about this: At the time of Prophet Muhammad the scriptures of People of Book were relatively pure. In fact the Jews of Madina were eagerly awaiting the advent of the Prophet and immediately recognized him from their scriptures. But we know what was their response. There were clear indications in the previous scriptures about Prophet Muhammad, which probably explains the large swathes of People of Books from Syria, Yemen, Palestine, Egypt, Algeria, Tunisia, and other parts in the middle east and mediterranean coming to Islam. (Thank God there was no Zakir Naik during those time.) Even in such an apparently advantageous position Prophet Muhammad didnt take effort to prove his claims by examining other’s scriptures. Moreover the Muslims in succeeding generations too didnt try that even though large numbers of ancient scriptures (Dead sea scrolls, for example, which were recently discovered) were discovered from time to time. Now do you really believe that the current scriptures, which Zakir Naik himself alleges to be corrupted beyond repair to hold anything for us? So just leave people to their faith, whether you believe it to be right or wrong. (Also imagine this, the guy who has not got even a glimpse of these ancient scriptures, had the audacity to challenge Pope for a debate!)
A person’s views can be given consideration when others know the person to be truthful. Kindly expose your religious inclination by stating your true name. I am 100 % sure you are a Sanghi. Why are you hiding yourself brother…are you ashamed of your identity.
I tell you why we should NOT support zakir naik.
1) Zakir compares Islam with other religions & tries to prove how Islam is the only correct religion. This hurts sentiments of other religion people.
2) He justifies backwardness of Islam religion.. for example no population control, beating wife in private, not allowing other religious places in islamic countries, how Sharia is not a barbaric law, polygamy etc.
3) Muslims inherently have violent mindset. If you preach them such islamic ideology then they immediately become terrorist. Hence teaching Islam fundamentalism to muslims is very risky. This is not so risky to Hindus or other religious people.
4) Hindu extremists also give such comments. However, hindus do not take them seriously. Otherwise you would have found Hindu terrorist in Bangladesh where hindu temples are being destroyed & pujaris are being killed.
Not only Zakir Naik. But every Muslims believes ISLAM is the correct religion and all else are false.It’s in Quran. NO need of Zakir Naik to claim this. And by the way TRUTH BY NATURE IS EXCLUSIVE. All can’t be right. If you have differences with Us. Let’s debate.
Islam isn’t backward. Go read economics and other rsearch studies by economists. We have enough food to feed 3 planets equal to that of earth. The problem is with the distribution which can only be solved thru Islamic System.
Muslism are inherently violent? Go and study polemology you will get to know who are violent. I don’t know how you guys come so unprepared to comment on a media website. This isn’t fb or whatsapp that we gonna take load of crap!
Then you said hindus do not take them seriously. Oh do you know how many Riots happened since Independence?since 1950 in 6,933 instances of communal violence between 1954 and 1982. Major ones are 1964 Kolkata,1983 Nellie massacre,1987 Hashimpura massacre,1992 Bombay riots,2002 Gujarat riots. And how many Muslims got killed in that. Take it from me in the terrorist attacks the casualties were much much less than Riots. Your hindu brothers Butchered our men,women and children.And you saying that such comments has no effect. Wow! Amazing.
“But every Muslims believes ISLAM is the correct religion and all else are false. NO need of Zakir Naik to claim this.”
It does not mean you or Zakir Naik can claim so. Other religions have their own opinions about Islam. Do you want them to rant around about that ?
Well the problem here is that other religion’s theologians/theologists are not able to prove their claims.
That is for you. For them Muslim Theologians and evangelists are not able to prove their claims. :).
Produce your proof if you are truthful. Bring your evidences from your scriptures.
This is from my scripture:
Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion. Quran (109:6)
And do not insult those they invoke other than Allah , lest they insult Allah in enmity without knowledge. (6:108)
Assalamu Alaikum,
May peace be upon you.
Dear Hindu Brother, I thank you lot for coming out and giving your comments, This gives an opportunities for us to explain and bring people to right path.
By this way world over thousands of people revert to Islam.
you can see youtube Videos, Start with Famous personalities such as Mohammad Ali – boxer, A R Rahman – Legend Music Director, Mike Tyson, Yuvan Shankar Raja, Former U K Prime Minister Tony Blair’s Sister and so on.
Accept or not, Islam is the fastest growing religion by birth rate and by conversion.
Replies to your questions, Kindly get in deep and investigate to know the truth.
Dr Zakir Naik is preaching Islam for more than 25 years.
He is preaching world over, recently he preached in Japan and converted few Japanese also.
He converted many Hindus and few Jains, Sikhs etc.
Extremist such as RSS and BJP always wanted to take him down and waited for golden opportunity.
Kindly Go thru all videos of Dr Zakir Naik and let us know in which video he is promoting terrorism, He always spoke to stand against terrorism.
Many bought medias are attacking him by just cutting & showing one statement without entire para or the speech.
Crores of people watch his video and attend his live speech.
If he influence them all then there will be crores of terrorist.
Regarding comparison between religion
to choose the best, we need to compare, we buy after comparing, we choose carrier after comparing.
A religion is our choice, every individual has right to compare and choose right path for him. Dr Naik details the comparison.
No Population control – as education grows among us and inflation is peaking, we are controlling birth.
Beating Wife – In Islam, there are 3 ways to show anger on your wife.
1) Do not speak,
2) Do not share bed with her
3) Beat you wife with tooth pick.
Watch Dr Naik video on this.
Sharia is big chapter, but in short – it says no to drugs, no alcohol, no nudity, no guy sex, no lesbian, no gambling etc.
These are all evil in society, you are wise enough to understand.
There are 170 crores muslims all over world, if we all are violent and become terrorist then world will come to end.
Even we have families and we love them much.
You need to accept us as a friend and take every section, class in the country together for India’s development.
I Hope you will investigate before judging.
http://www.huffingtonpost.in/2016/07/07/zakir-naik_n_10851550.html?ncid=inblnkinhpmg00000004&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=outbrain&utm_campaign=huffpost_traffic&utm_term=5053546
Please tell your valuable opinion about these great sayings of Zakir Naik. Wake up brother. This is 21 st century. Are you worrying about having sex with your female slaves still?
Why? What is the problem in having sex with the female slaves? See if God AlMighty has allowed human something in His Shari’ah (laws to live in this world and prepare for hereafter) then it has to be correct. Now we have thousands of logical replies to your claim but it depends who is worth of receiving them.
You are a sick guy.Seek treatment.
Take my word. You wont be even allowed to make anyone slave, let alone have sex with them, never ever in the future. Now our pressing needs are something else – Education, employment, communal harmony, protection of life and property, preservation of religious freedom and so on. If a guy keep ranting in a way even Muslim countries ban his speeches (Malaysia, Bangladesh and the list is growing) how you expect Muslims in India to achieve these goals. Or you want to get the right to have sex with your female slave first before everything else?
I saw lot of video of this person. First of all he is a well qualified doctor. He know all human body has same anatomy. Being such an educated person he should promote science an d technology. I know he never say he support any kind of terrorism. But the way he is presenting the fact in front all it is sufficient enough to radicalize the mind of both Muslim and non muslim youth. Muslims will think Islam is the only truth and Non muslim will consider Islam is the biggest threat to them. Please try to understand what ever written in Koran or any other religious book are representing some particular thought. It is not word of God. Being a hindu I am never demanding that Vedas are fully correct. We need accept any thing as truth if it can be proved and can be change under any circumstance. In fact non of us have the capacity the change the divine laws. Can we change the law of gravity. No we can not. Because it is a divine law. So sir isaac newton is a true messenger of god. If we tried to break any divine law God punished us. For instance increase of CO2 in atmosphere leads to global warming. This is where all the human being across the world tried to break the divine law, so we are being punished by God in terms of different type of natural calamities. Instead of trying to understand the creator we need to understand the creation of creator. Because this is gift from God to us. At Least educated Muslims need to understand this things and explain it to other people with poor education background.
People change their faith if they see merits in other religion,if an evangelist doesn’t say so who would say,its not about being superior but more about logic and rationale.Most of the time he is quoting from others texts to make them realise what actually their faith stands for,zakir naik is an ordinary soul who is an Islamic scholar as well,he has wide following because most of the people most of the times agree with him,he has his own short commings, somebody doesn’t agree doesn’t make him a villain and Mr engineer i totally disagree with ur disagreements, there are certain things which need to be understood in the context of those times,even I don’t think apostates should be killed(during nascent stages of Islam,if apostates were not killed they would have caused lots of damage during military campaigns and to stop Hippocrates from entering in to its fold.Regarding sex with the slaves he quoted what is there,now there are no slaves so better ignore it.)
We are standing with Dr zakir naik not for him being what he is but for the false allegations being hurled at him.If people were to be radicalized by his lectures India would have been brimming with Islamic radicals for the huge audience he holds.
Zakir nail is actually the disciple of south African ahmed deedath,according to deedath missionaries would harass him quoting from bible to convince about Christianity being the true religion,that forced him to study bible to counter missionaries, I hope being engineer u would understand the rest.
I would rather follow Prophet Muhammad than Deedat in this matter. So I dont have to say I will conduct missionary work where I am a minority and will not allow it for other religious holders where I am majority.
Everybody has the liberty to follow what he likes,now no nobody had forced u to follow him,it’s u who objected to his methods, can I ask is Sufism the method( grave worshipping) prophet Mohammed(pbuh) never made permanent graves for sahaba.Tableeghi jamaat has its own way,was it the path shown by prophet(pbuh)jamate Islami has its unique method,u r repeatedly quoting prophet(pbuh) did he not retort Muslims to extend dawah ,its pure common sense u do dawah among non Muslims.not Muslims and obviously u will be in minority where u are doing dawah work.inviting people to islam needs courage.not possible for paupers, therefore appreciate it rather being critical,every Muslim with the basic knowledge of Islam know that it’s must for Muslims to present religion to non Muslims.As far as permission for people of other religions to propagate is the call of respective govts.
Muslims in India were largely made by Sufi saints. Even Zakir Naik, who is an acknowledged Wahabi missionary funded by Saudi Arabia, are trying to woo the same Muslim community created by Sufi’s efforts, and are not successful outside the community unlike the Sufis. That is the reason the followers and audience of Zakir Naik is drawn from current Muslim community only. (I am sure you too are a born Muslim, is not so?) That is the reason he has to resort to ranting supremacy of Islam over other religions, which is capable of attracting only the already Muslim folks, and not non-Muslims.
At the time of prophet,people used to live in small groups,one of my friends who lives I’m marina told me that madina of that times! !was similar to the Present size of Haram,prophet used to approach and invite people individually,how far its feasible in present scenario.
For your information, Islam made the fastest spread when the means of communication was much more limited than now. Still you believe the message has not reached all the people now? Then you are confusing Dawah with missionary work, which you should not.
The methods change according to times,if u think message has reached every one then non Muslims in general would not have associated Islam with terrorism,when the knowledge of Muslims in itself is pathetic do u think others have correct understanding of Islam.Many a times people who took the initiative to introduce Islam were told where were they before.Mr engineer saying things for sake of saying is different from ground realities.When u refer to the prophets time ,there is incomparable difference between the imaan/taqwa of the people of those times and now.kindly enlighten the difference between dawah and missionaries.
I will explain the difference between Dawah and missionary work.
Do you know what is being said in Azan five times a day? Please tell me that first. I will continue after that.
If only muslims are being influenced then why it should be a cause of resentment among indian right wing and by the way every muslim believes islam to be more pragmatic than other religions,the term superior has been introduced to create nad vibes and people like u fall for it.what Zakir naik is doing to bridge the gaps between religions so as enable people to better appreciate Islam,he is winning reverts but it seems u don’t have much idea about his work,if i u r to judge a person fairly u need to put ur inherent biases aside unfortunately it doesn’t seem in ur case.
Let’s leave it here,the opinion of handful doesn’t make much of a difference.
There was no resentment among Hindus against Sufis even though they attracted millions of Hindus to Islam in the olden ages, so much that many Hindus visited sufi shrines by remaining Hindus. Today Christian missionaries are active in India and even they manage not to create much controversy. If you observe methodology of both these groups you can see that they just put forward their spiritual message and never compare religions, which is necessary to win real converts. And here is our guy who manages to convert five or six people in a conference and then goes about broadcasting that to the whole world as if it is a victory of Islam over other religions, which would have otherwise gone unnoticed. So his intention is clear – to win the current Muslim community and spread wahabism by spreading supremacist propaganda and feeding to their bruised ego in the modern world, as Maulana Wahiduddin Khan has opined.
He has repeatedly said he is only trying to point out similarities between Islam and other religions and to make a case how theessage of their texts have been distorted.why the hell ego of a Muslim is bruised when there is nothing better on offer and can never be.If our forefathers had stuck to their beliefs we we would have never been Muslims,they saw the truth and embraced,during my childhood I had spent n number of days at dargahs with my mother,but when I became aware I realised this cannot be part of islam.That was my opinion as a teenager without any influence.
You are contradicting yourself (and even lying).
1) If he is only trying to point out similarities between Islam and other religions why should there be so many fury from non-Muslims about his speeches? To tell someone their texts have been distorted is your way of telling the similarities? That is a difference right?
2) Is it you or believers of other faith who should decide that what you says about their faith is acceptable to them?
3) (Here is your lying exposed) Is this the way of declaring similarity?
“there is no death penalty for apostates in Islam, until the apostate starts to preach against islamic teachings; then he can be put to death”
“regarding building of churches or temples, how can we allow this when their religion is wrong and when their worshiping is wrong?”
3) Will Zakir Naik allow other religious believers to conduct such similarity lectures (of course as it is similar there are no differences) in his own country Saudi Arabia?
4) If it is only about similarities then why should any one accept Islam as you say (Here is another contradiction)? Does he say that all religions are true? If not how can you talk only about similarities?
5) Where is the proof that Prophet Muhammad declaring such similarities by quoting from other’s scriptures? If there are only similarities what was the need for the advent of Prophet Muhammad?
Please answer point by point (or you will lose!)
The reason for broadcasting is many a times people get convinced by the message but cannot cumulate enough courage to cross the line,they need an extra nudge,when they see their fellow followers taking the leap they get inspired to take the final call.Again iam repeating the word supremacy has been introduced to damage the cause.
Now you are not going to nudge anyone anymore. If just a nudge was enough there would not have been partition. Now just nudge yourself towards realities.
Your last line reflects ur frustration
The more u write the more it looks u r maquartding as muslim
You know nothing about Zakir naik nor his work, nor islam ur opinion is based on hearsay and inherent bias.
Similarity pertains to presence of one god who is formless.
Texts pointing towards arrival of final messenger.
Debunking the myth of trinity of Christians
Xakir naik knowing more about the others faith,it is so ,he has been holding the books,inviting the scholars of other religions to debate to prove him wrong.
You have been quoting too much of prophet mohammed(pbuh) can u tell me what prophet has said regarding punishment of apostates(ur mask is off)A Muslim at least once writes(pbuh) besides the name of prophet Mohammed.
Prophet Mohammad was last of messengers,there were lakhs of them before,the final message was delivered by prophet Mohammad(pbuh)
Not zakir naik every Muslim would say that those who follow the original text of Torah and bible are as good as those followers of prophet Mohammad.
The advent of prophet mohammad(pbuh) was to correct the distortions produced by the people in the message delivered by preceeding messengers.
Th last nail in the coffin of ur masquarade,message was being directly given to prophet mohammad by Allah through Angel gabriel,the message being in the mind,he was no ordinary soul to carry text around and by the way he was unlettered.
The poinr to ponder for non muslims is how an unletterd man can produce such message.
Dr zakir naik belong to india.when asked about the freedom to propogate other religions in islamic countries.he said they can propogate and should be given freedom to do so ,pushed further he said better that question should be asked with those in power.
Finally prophet Mohammad did not laid down the rules of delivering the message of Allah but ultimately the message has to be delivered by every Muslim.
Engineer you are certainly am hindutva troll truyng to create a rift betweenMuslims,No educated Muslim would ever pose a question “what’s the proof prophet Mohammed(pbuh) quoted from the texts being aware that he could not read and write.
The questions about apostasy and freedom to propogate other religions in islamic countries are favorite questions of hindutva trolls.
Muslim brothers beware of this charade.
You are going round and round without ever coming to the point. I asked you to answer my questions point by point but has escaped doing that. I dont blame you, because this is how debates work. That is why we say that we shall not debate about religion, because no one is ever going to win such a debate, even though everyone will simply think that his side has won!
“Xakir naik knowing more about the others faith,it is so ,he has been holding the books,inviting the scholars of other religions to debate to prove him wrong.”
Zakir Naik will never know about Vedas better than a Vedic scholar or about Bible than a bible scholar no matter how much he exercises his brain; and these things are not taught in medical school either. Also with the kind of statements he make I dont believe he is capable of doing too deep either. You dont understand that this person dont deserve a public platform and no sensible person will debate about religion, and still believe he has “won” all his debates.
You point is as Prophet Muhammad was unlettered he was in no position like Zakir Naik to analyze other’s scriptures. But when he came to Madina a learned Jewish scholar called Abdullahibnu Sallam accepted Islam. Then why the Prophet didnt simply ask him to produce a booklet detailing all the points in Torah which talks about prophet muhammad? Even though prophet had several debates with Jews and even christians why such an idea didnt come to his mind? Even if he forgot Allah would have reminded him right?
“he said they can propogate and should be given freedom to do so ,pushed further he said better that question should be asked with those in power.”
Now he is stranded in Saudi Arabia, let him at least ask his cohorts there about this freedom. Will he do that?
Can I come back to what prophet Mohammad has said about apostasy
Do u confess u ra Muslim
Did I not say no hard and fast rules for conveying the message of Allah
I addressed each and every concern of u inspite of that ur rants relects what u r.
Its none of your business how Muslims carry forward the message.
Intelligent people read between the lines,first of all there is sea change in communication methods, does that means Muslims should not embrace change .Do u mean people should either walk or move around on horses and camels,ships to convey message.
In Islam there is sunnah and farz
Sunnah is the method followed by prophet mohmef(pbih).IF u follow sumnah,it’s much better. It doesn’t constitute a sin if not followed.For example sunnsh is to keep 1/3pf the stomach empty while eating but if one eats full it:s not a sin.
But farz is obligatpry.Like conveying the message of Islam.
Iam not a spokesperson of IREF,u can reach out to them for personal clarifications of Dr zskir naik.
No IREF spokesperson have got anything to say more than what you have already said. Do you think all the persons who banned Zakir Naik speeches are stupid? Do you believe Darul Uloom Deoband Ulema are stupid? Then why you have to believe Zakir as infallible?
At least you have agreed the Zakir method is not as per the Sunnah. It is a good starting.
But the problem is it is not even a good Bidat. Quoting from other’s scriptures is not only what Prophet Muhammad has not prescribed, or not only something very obvious he has abstained from even during critical circumstances but even goes against his avowed tradition of not handling other’s scriptures, as evidenced by his prohibition of Umar (R). It also goes against the tradition of companions of prophet. There is nothing with IREF which will justify to overcome all these objections.
You claim Zakir naik is performing the farz of Dawah in order to justify his innovations. But consider this person is an anomaly – there are very rarely persons like this in history. Currently there is only one such tele-evangelist in India. Do you believe Dawah will be fulfilled by such solitary persons working here and there? Again you are confusing Dawah with missionary work. Let me come back to my previous challenge. Do you know what is being said in Azan five times a day? Please tell me that first. I will continue after that.
Iam a muslim,atleast i dont have to learn the meaning of azaan from you.By this time u might have got a good measure of whome u are dealing with.
When iam not a follower of Zakir naik and very rarely watch his videos and u think IREF has nothing more to say should make u realise two things if u r smart enough.
Anyway what prophet Mohammad(pbuh) has said about apostasy.
Do u confess u r a Muslim.
I would like to point out to your contradictions when you dont want to accept zakir naik knowing more about others scriptures but you want others to accept that islamic scholars of saudi arabia with large islamic universities don’t know whats right or wrong about zakor naiks methods of Dawah to have awarded him for his contributions towards understanding and spreading of Islam.So the scholars of birth place of Islam don’t know and u know more than them.The zakir naik the anamoly has till date reverted around 55000 people(burnol time).I have made it clear that we the muslims need to support zakir naik not for what he is but the false allegations against him.If u reflect back I have already stated him as an ordinary soul with short commings.Whether his methods are right or wrong should be a matter of: internal debate.By the way I believe he has innovated for Dawah rather than what u think.
Yes I agree with you akhee that in this time we should stand by Dr. Zakir, esp. when he has been targeted by Sangh Parivar Saffron Terrorists. I think he has been targeted because he is calling for Tawheed of Allaah and asking them to shun their idol worshipping. He has destroyed their false beliefs and shattered their false claims by the Help of Allaah Alone.
Hope at least he can land in India again.
The zakir naik the anamoly has till date reverted around 55000 people(burnol time).
First of all where that data came from?
Even if the data is correct Christian missionaries have already converted entire states in the north east India without creating a flutter. So you believe their methods are Islamically right just for the numbers?
Zakir Naik is working for Saudi establishment. So I dont wonder even if he gets a few awards and even rewards from them. By the way do you justify all the things that takes place in Saudi Arabia in the name of Islam, just because it is the birth place of Islam?
Any way I have got what I wanted from you. ” I have already stated him as an ordinary soul with short commings.Whether his methods are right or wrong should be a matter of: internal debate.By the way I believe he has innovated for Dawah rather than what u think.” First you accepted it is not Sunnah, and now you have accepted it is a Bidah and maybe even with some shortcomings. That is the point of agreement we have reached.
The main allegation oh him is about inspiring terrorism the basis on which this govt is trying to corner him which we muslim consider it as lies and a conspiracy to malign him. your agenda was different exploiting the fault lines[some disagreement regarding his methods} to develop major cracks disguising as muslim.whatever u quoted i have said that long before during my initial arguments,scroll down and check for urselves.
Even though the method is not sunnah,it’s neither wrong too, it was the need of hour and is to counter christian missionaries,by coincidence it was extended to hindu scriptures.hindus might have got offended because they do not venture in to others territories.
i would have really appreciated if you had argued with ur real identity Mr .Yogesh engineer.may Allah guide u to islam.
So there goes the data about 55000! (However you are comparatively better as you did not claim the “one convert per second” claim usually put forward by some of Zakir devotees)
Thanks for unequivocally admitting Zakir methods is not Sunnah. However we will rather check with scholars whether it is wrong or right than take your fatwa in this regard.
Also your argument that it was done to counter the christian missionaries doesnt hold weight. Why you should worry about what is said in somebody else’s scriptures which you also believe was tampered and doctored? As you cant accept this scripture as truth as a whole how you are ever going to prove your subjective judgments rather than getting into endless debates and also accusing other’s religious scriputes as corrupted? Also why such a practice is conspicuous by its absence from that of Prophet Muhammad and his companions and even the acknowledged scholars of today?
Not only Hindus, there was lot of objections from other religious believers about Zakir Naik. Just google around.
What is your problem Mr.Engineer? Why you got a problem with the preachers? Is it that they question other worldview and other faith and expose them? Why is it so wrong to read other scriptures just for debate purpose and to expose their false belief? Dr.zakir naik and et al are not violating any shari’ interest. If you are a Muslim then I think it shouldn’t have been any problem.If you are disguising yourself as a Muslim then your Problem is accepted?
Even prophet mohmad(pbuh) was not able to convince each and everybody.There would invariably be cribbings but if the method within Islamic legalities gets dividends than it should not be a cause of concern.Its a conspiracy to shut down an evangelist who could pay back in their own coins.who cares about what u say,his work has been appreciated and recognised by citadel of islam,is working effectively, since his opponents doesn’t have the where with alls yo counter him
Even prophet mohmad(pbuh) was not able to convince each and everybody.There would invariably be cribbings but if the method within Islamic legalities gets dividends than it should not be a cause of concern.Its a conspiracy to shut down an evangelist who could pay back in their own coins.who cares about what u say,his work has been appreciated and recognised by citadel of islam,is working effectively, since his opponents doesn’t have the where with alls to counter him had taken to dubious ways,those within the community who are against him have their own axes to grind.Its not my opinion his wide popularity reflects that majority of Muslims do not consider his methods outside gambits of permissibility.