Is Ram of Valmiki Ramayana same as Abraham of Bible?


By Dr Javed Jamil,

Rama is perhaps the most important and revered figure for Hindus. Abraham is the patriarch of all Semitic religions and is the symbol of monotheism for Jews, Christians and Muslims. Interestingly when we read the story of Abraham in Bible and the story of Ram in Valmiki Ramayana, the resemblances are so striking that one cannot remain but convinced that they are one and the same figure. I had prepared a small paper on the subject in 1990 but deferred its publication because I thought the time was not right for it. I discussed the issue with Mr. Bharat Jhunjhunwala, renowned Economist and Hindu philosopher, and when he studied the matter, he was more than convinced about the oneness of both the figures and started working on a book about the common prophets of Judaism, Christianity, Islam and Hinduism. The difference between him and me remains regarding the location of the figure we call Ram-Abraham. While he thinks, Ram-Abraham was born in India – though not in Northern but South India – I think the Biblical place is the real location. Let me quote here the important parts of the story from Bible. I am not quoting the Ram story because it is very well known to most of us and it is too long to be reproduced here. However I will show the relevant similarities where required. Here are the parts of Bible that more or less sum up the moot points in the story of Ram:

Genesis 11

1. When Terah had lived seventy years, he became the father of Abram, Nahor, and Haran. 27 Now these are the descendants of Terah. Terah was the father of Abram, Nahor, and Haran; and Haran was the father of Lot. 28 Haran died before his father Terah in the land of his birth, in Ur of the Chalde’ans. 2

Terah took Abram his son and Lot the son of Haran, his grandson, and Sar’ai his daughter-in-law, his son Abram’s wife, and they went forth together from Ur of the Chalde’ans to go into the land of Canaan; but when they came to Haran, they settled there. 32 The days of Terah were two hundred and five years; and Terah died in Haran.

Genesis 12

1 Now the LORD said to Abram, “Go from your country and your kindred and your father’s house to the land that I will show you. 2 And I will make of you a great nation, and I will bless you, and make your name great, so that you will be a blessing. 3 I will bless those who bless you, and him who curses you I will curse; and by you all the families of the earth shall bless themselves.” 4 So Abram went, as the LORD had told him; and Lot went with him.

And Abram took Sar’ai his wife, and Lot his brother’s son, and all their possessions which they had gathered, and the persons that they had gotten in Haran; and they set forth to go to the land of Canaan. When they had come to the land of Canaan, 6 Abram passed through the land to the place at Shechem, to the oak of Moreh.

10 Now there was a famine in the land. So Abram went down to Egypt to sojourn there, for the famine was severe in the land. 11 When he was about to enter Egypt, he said to Sar’ai his wife, “I know that you are a woman beautiful to behold; 12 and when the Egyptians see you, they will say, ‘This is his wife’; then they will kill me, but they will let you live. 13 Say you are my sister, that it may go well with me because of you, and that my life may be spared on your account.” 14 When Abram entered Egypt the Egyptians saw that the woman was very beautiful. 15 And when the princes of Pharaoh saw her, they praised her to Pharaoh. And the woman was taken into Pharaoh’s house. 16 And for her sake he dealt well with Abram; and he had sheep, oxen, he-asses, menservants, maidservants, she-asses, and camels. 17 But the LORD afflicted Pharaoh and his house with great plagues because of Sar’ai, Abram’s wife. 18 So Pharaoh called Abram, and said, “What is this you have done to me? Why did you not tell me that she was your wife? 19 Why did you say, ‘She is my sister,’ so that I took her for my wife? Now then, here is your wife, take her, and be gone.” 20 And Pharaoh gave men orders concerning him; and they set him on the way, with his wife and all that he had.

The LORD said to Abram, after Lot had separated from him, “Lift up your eyes, and look from the place where you are, northward and southward and eastward and westward; 15 for all the land which you see I will give to you and to your descendants for ever. 16 I will make your descendants as the dust of the earth; so that if one can count the dust of the earth, your descendants also can be counted. 17 Arise, walk through the length and the breadth of the land, for I will give it to you.” 18 So Abram moved his tent, and came and dwelt by the oaks of Mamre, which are at Hebron; and there he built an altar to the LORD.

Genesis 17

1 When Abram was ninety-nine years old the LORD appeared to Abram, and said to him, “I am God Almighty; walk before me, and be blameless. 2 And I will make my covenant between me and you, and will multiply you exceedingly.” 3 Then Abram fell on his face; and God said to him, 4 “Behold, my covenant is with you, and you shall be the father of a multitude of nations. 5 No longer shall your name be Abram, but your name shall be Abraham; for I have made you the father of a multitude of nations. 6 I will make you exceedingly fruitful; and I will make nations of you, and kings shall come forth from you. 7

Genesis 21

So Abraham rose early in the morning, and took bread and a skin of water, and gave it to Hagar, putting it on her shoulder, along with the child, and sent her away. And she departed, and wandered in the wilderness of Beer-sheba. 15 When the water in the skin was gone, she cast the child under one of the bushes. 16 Then she went, and sat down over against him a good way off, about the distance of a bowshot; for she said, “Let me not look upon the death of the child.” And as she sat over against him, the child lifted up his voice and wept. 17 And God heard the voice of the lad; and the angel of God called to Hagar from heaven, and said to her, “What troubles you, Hagar? Fear not; for God has heard the voice of the lad where he is. 18 Arise, lift up the lad, and hold him fast with your hand; for I will make him a great nation.” 19 Then God opened her eyes, and she saw a well of water; and she went, and filled the skin with water, and gave the lad a drink. 20 And God was with the lad, and he grew up; he lived in the wilderness, and became an expert with the bow. 21 He lived in the wilderness of Paran; and his mother took a wife for him from the land of Egypt. 2

Genesis 23

1 Sarah lived a hundred and twenty-seven years; these were the years of the life of Sarah. 2 And Sarah died at Kir’iath-ar’ba (that is, Hebron) in the land of Canaan; and Abraham went in to mourn for Sarah and to weep for her. 3 And Abraham rose up from before his dead, and said to the Hittites, 4 “I am a stranger and a sojourner among you; give me property among you for a burying place, that I may bury my dead out of my sight.” 5 The Hittites answered Abraham, 6 “Hear us, my lord; you are a mighty prince among us. Bury your dead in the choicest of our sepulchres; none of us will withhold from you his sepulchre, or hinder you from burying your dead.” 7 Abraham rose and bowed to the Hittites, the people of the land. 8 And he said to them, “If you are willing that I should bury my dead out of my sight, hear me, and entreat for me Ephron the son of Zohar, 9 that he may give me the cave of Mach-pe’lah, which he owns; it is at the end of his field. For the full price let him give it to me in your presence as a possession for a burying place.” 10 Now Ephron was sitting among the Hittites; and Ephron the Hittite answered Abraham in the hearing of the Hittites, of all who went in at the gate of his city, 11 “No, my lord, hear me; I give you the field, and I give you the cave that is in it; in the presence of the sons of my people I give it to you; bury your dead.” 12 Then Abraham bowed down before the people of the land. 13 And he said to Ephron in the hearing of the people of the land, “But if you will, hear me; I will give the price of the field; accept it from me, that I may bury my dead there.” 14 Ephron answered Abraham, 15 “My lord, listen to me; a piece of land worth four hundred shekels of silver, what is that between you and me? Bury your dead.” 16 Abraham agreed with Ephron; and Abraham weighed out for Ephron the silver which he had named in the hearing of the Hittites, four hundred shekels of silver, according to the weights current among the merchants. 17 So the field of Ephron in Mach-pe’lah, which was to the east of Mamre, the field with the cave which was in it and all the trees that were in the field, throughout its whole area, was made over 18 to Abraham as a possession in the presence of the Hittites, before all who went in at the gate of his city. 19 After this, Abraham buried Sarah his wife in the cave of the field of Mach-pe’lah east of Mamre (that is, Hebron) in the land of Canaan. 20 The field and the cave that is in it were made over to Abraham as a possession for a burying place by the Hittites

Genesis 25

These are the days of the years of Abraham’s life, a hundred and seventy-five years. 8 Abraham breathed his last and died in a good old age, an old man and full of years, and was gathered to his people. 9 Isaac and Ish’mael his sons buried him in the cave of Mach-pe’lah, in the field of Ephron the son of Zohar the Hittite, east of Mamre, 10 the field which Abraham purchased from the Hittites.

Now it can be seen that all the major events of Ram’s story are there in Bible:

1. The original name of Abraham in Bible is Abram, which in Hebrew means Father Ram.

2. Abraham was also exiled; he went along with his wife Sara (Sita) and his nephew Lot (Lakshaman)

3. On exile his wife Sara was kidnapped by Firaun (Pharaoh), the king of Egypt. In Arabic, if the fa of Firaun is removed, what remains is Ravan. In Bible, however, Pharoah releases Sara without any war because her captivity brings miseries to Pharaoh and he gets convinced that this is due to Sara. There are some Ram katahas that also do not describe any war between the two.

3. Abraham’s wife was also expelled. The difference is that while in Valmiki Ramayana, the kidnapping and expelling of the same wife is described, in Bible two wives are involved. In several Ramkathas, Rama is shown to have more than one wife.

4. Abraham too had two famous sons: Ismail and Ishaq like Ram’s two sons Luv and Kush.

5. When we study the description of places given in different directions by Sugriva to Vanar Sena, this description does not fit if we try to put it around Ayodhya. But if we put it around Egypt (see the old map in Biblical books) it is very much consistent with that.

6. In Bible, the birth place of Abraham is Ur, a place in Iraq, close to which Euphrates River flows. While the direction of the flow of Saryu in Valmiki Ramayana is opposite to that of the Saryu River outside today’s Ayodhya, it is the same in case of Euphrates.

7. The Black African race which Ram came into contact with during exile appears to have been described as vanars in Valmiki Ramayan.

8. I think, after Abraham’s death, some people of his time migrated to India and carried the story of Abraham along with them, and then parts of stories became associated with Indian places. Aryans are historically known to be of Iranian origin who migrated to India with considerable force. With Abraham/Ram’s origin in Iraq, which was earlier part of Persia, it is quite possible that his story came to India along with Aryans. Interestingly, nothing much is known to Indians about the descendants of Rama. Though some smaller castes trace their origin to Lav and Kush, there is no dominant caste with those roots. This appears to be because Aryans migrated to India and then lost contact with the descendants of Ram/Abraham. In Arabia, Palestine and other parts of West Asia, on the other hand, the majority traces their origin to Abraham and his sons. Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, David, Solomon, Jesus all these big names belong to the Isaac family and Muhammad belongs to the Ishmael family.

Now it will be even more interesting to look at from the work of Bharat Jhunjhunwala:

First, he has compared the genealogy of the figure in Ramayana and Bible. The genealogy is ample proof of both being the same figure:

Biblical Name

Indian Name of Rama’s Line

Reu or Raghai














I will like to quote here some parts from Mr. Jhunjhunwala’s article:

“From Ur of the Chaldeans to Haran

The Bible tells us Terah had three sons—Abraham, Nahor and Haran. Haran’s son was Lot. Haran died in Ur of the Chaldeans. Terah migrated from Ur to Haran with Abram, Nahor and Lot. Terah died at Haran (Gen 11.27-32).

The Indian version is identical except that Dasaratha had four sons—Rama, Lakshmana, Bharata and Shatrughna. We shall show later that the description of Lakshmana matches that of Biblical Lot. The difference is that Terah had 3+1 accompaniments while Dasaratha had 4.

Valmiki says Dasaratha reestablished Ayodhya, the Biblical Haran, on a larger scale than earlier (Bal 5.9). He gives no details of what such reestablishment means though, it must be admitted, the ambience is of larger scale only. But Vimalsuri gives details that are closer to the Bible. He says that Dasaratha lived in the fear of Ravana—whom we will encounter as the Egyptian Pharaoh later. Then he married Kaikeyi in a swyamvara and returned to Saket—another name for Ayodhya—thereafter (23.16, 24.34). This entry to Ayodhya-Saket may be mentioned in the Bible as migration from Ur of the Chaldeans to Haran. Dasaratha dies at Ayodhya-Haran in both narratives as also in the Bible.

Another small point of difference is that the Biblical narrative mentions the migration of Abram and Sarai with Terah from Ur of the Chaldeans to Haran which means that Abram and Sarai were married at Ur. Vimalsuri, on the other hand, mention this marriage after migration to Ayodhya (28.129).

Haran to Bethel

The Biblical narrative continues with Abraham migrating from Haran to Canaan along with Sarah and Lot. Within Canaan he travels to Shechem, ‘Terebinth tree of Moreh’ and settles between Bethel and Ai. Bethel has mountains on the East. Here there was famine and Abraham went to the South to Egypt. In Egypt he asks Sarah to mention she was his sister so that the Egyptians will not kill him. Sarah was, as expected by Abraham, taken to the Pharaoh. But the Pharaoh was plagued with great plagues. He then returned Sarah to Abraham and sent him away with his possessions. Abraham returns to Bethel (Gen 12.5-13.3).

This story contained in 16 verses in the Bible occupies about 300 pages each in both Valmiki and Vimalsuri. We give here only the key similarities. Rama is asked to leave for the forests for 14 years by his father. He, Sita and Lakshmana travel for a long time in the forests and in the end settle at Panchvati with River Godavari and mountains nearby (Aranya 16.13-14). This is similar to Bethel and Ai of the Bible.

Sita is abducted by Ravana at Panchvati. Rama attacks Ravana’s Lanka and rescues Sita and returns with her to Ayodhya. They pass through Panchvati, i.e. Biblical Bethel, where Sita was abducted (Yuddha 123.45). Here there is a difference. Rama moves on from Panchvati to Ayodhya-Haran and further narrative takes place from Ayodhya while the Bible mentions rest of story with Bethel as the center. Another difference is that the Biblical narrative mentions Rama’s reluctant acquiescence to Sarah being taken to the Pharaoh while the Indian texts mention her being abducted. The common thread is that of Abraham-Rama’s wife being taken to the foreign King.

An important statement in the Bible is Abraham’s statement that Sarah is his sister. In later reference to Abimelech he explicitly states Sarah is daughter of his father but not daughter of his mother (Gen 20.12). The main Indian tradition has no such story. However, Jinsenacharya in Jaina Mahapuranam says that … [add Mahapuranam]. Further, Sita’s birth is shrouded in mystery in Valmiki Ramayana. It is possible this has something to do with birth of Sita.

Sequence of Lot’s separation to Sarah’s death

The Bible gives five key events after Abraham’s return from Egypt.
• Abraham and Lot separate due to strife between their herdsmen. Lot is captured by Chedorlaomer king of Elam and then rescued by Abraham. Lot dies (Gen 13-14).
• Abraham journeys to Gerar in Kadesh in the land of Philistines. Sarah is taken to king Abimelech and then released (Gen 20). Then a friendship is made between Abimelech and Abraham (Gen 21.32).
• Hagar is expelled. Her son becomes an archer in the wilderness (Gen 21-14-20).
• Abraham undertakes to sacrifice Issac (Gen 22).
• Sarah dies at Kirjath Arba. She is buried in land bought by Abraham (Gen 23).
These five modules are found with some variation in both Valmiki and Vimalsuri but the order is different as shown in Table below:


Order of four modules in Gen 13-23

Order in genesis

Valmiki (Numbers refer to sequence in the narrative)

Vimalsuri (Numbers refer to sequence in the narrative)

1 Separation of Abraham and Lot and latter’s death

5 Sage Durvasa visits Rama and Lakshmana is expelled.

5 Lakshmana is in coma upon being told of Rama’s death and dies.

2 Conflict and friendship with Abimelech of Philistines

2 Shatrughna attacks Madhurapuri and conquers it.

1 Shatrughna attacks Madhurapuri and conquers it.

3 Hagar expelled. Son becomes an archer.

1 Sita is expelled. Sons Lav and Kush become warrior.

2 Sita is expelled. Her sons launch war against Rama’s kingdom and are united with him.

4 Isaac’s sacrifice.

3 Rama undertakes Aswamegha Yajna.

3 (Lavan and Ankush attack Ayodhya and are united with Rama).

5 Sarah dies and is buried.

4 Sita is subjected to fire test and then sinks into the earth.

4 Sita undergoes fire test and becomes ascetic.




Valmiki’s Uttar Kanda, where these stories are found, is known to be a later addition. Hence, change in sequence of modules is pardonable. The sequence of Bible and Vimalsuri is similar except for interchange of modules 1 and 2. Having noted this difference in sequence, we now proceed to show their similarities.

Separation of Abraham and Lot and latter’s death

There was strife between herdsmen of Abraham and Lot after Abraham’s return from Egypt. Lot thereupon decides to settle in the plains of Jordan while Abraham remains at Canaan. Subsequently Lot is captured by King Chedorlaomer from Sodom. Abraham rescues Lot. Thereafter Lot lives in Sodom which is destroyed by God but Lot escapes to Zoar where his daughters get him drunk and cohabit with him to produce sons. Thereafter Lot is not mentioned in the Bible. One presumes he died (Gen 12.7, 14, 18.20 and 19.30).

The story in Valmiki Ramayana is very short. Rama was in serious discussion at one time. He appointed Lakshmana to guard the gates and ensure no one entered. At that very time Sage Durvasa visits and seeks audience with Rama. Lakshmana is caught in a dilemma. He decides to allow Durvasa to meet Rama, who expels him for this misdeed. Lakshmana controls his breath and dies (Uttara 105-106). The theme of Abraham-Lot conflict is found here.

Vimalsuri gives the story as follows: Two Angels decide to test the love of Rama and Lakshmana for each other. They come to Lakshmana and in jest inform him that Rama has died. Thereupon Lakshmana enters a coma and is not revived despite medical treatment and dies (110). Lakshmana’s going into coma resonates with Lot’s daughters getting him drunk. Conflict between Abraham and Lot is missing here but Lakshmana goes into coma and dies which is similar to Lot getting drunk and thereafter not being heard of in the Bible.

Conflict and friendship with Abimelech of Philistines

Abraham sojourns in Gerar in the land of Philistines after return from Egypt. Again he asks Sarah to say she is his sister and she is taken to the king and subsequently released upon knowing she is Abraham’s wife. Thereafter, Abimelech comes to Abraham and makes a treaty of friendship (Gen 20, 21.22-32).

The parallel in Valmiki possibly lays in Shatrughna’s attack on Madhurapuri. The common link is provided by the seafaring character of the Philistines. The King of Madhurapuri is son-in-law of Lanka which is also a seafaring country. However, Shatrughna, unlike Abraham, kills the king of Madhurapuri. This episode does not close with friendship (Uttara 69). Vimalsuri gives an identical story (87).

The similarity between the Biblical and Indian narrative is admittedly tenuous. The common point is another conflict with seafaring people after return from Egypt-Lanka.

Hagar expelled. Son becomes an archer

Sarah did not have a child till this time. Sita, likewise, also did not have a child till this time.

Sarah asks Abraham to go into her maid Hagar who bears Ishmael. Soon thereafter Sarah bears Issac. Thu Abraham has two sons. Likewise Rama has two sons Lav and Kush according to Valmiki or Lavan and Ankush according to Vimalsuri. The common point is that Abraham-Ram has two sons.

Abraham expels maid Hagar and her son Ishmael who becomes an archer (Gen 22.20). Similarly, Sita is expelled by Rama and bears Lav and Kush, who become great warriors. The difference is that in the Biblical account Hagar is expelled after the birth of the two sons while in the Indian account they are born after Sita is expelled.

Another difference is that Abraham has three wives—Sarah, Hagar and Keturah whom he marries later. Valmiki, however, says Rama had only one wife—Sita. This is extolled as a virtue. Rama wanted to undertake the Aswamegha sacrifice and that required presence of his wife. Then he makes a golden statue of Sita to complete the rites. This is contradictory to the Biblical narrative. However, this is partly nullified by Vimalsuri’s assertion that Rama had four wives—Sita, Prabhavati, Ratinibha and Sridama (91.18).

Isaac’s sacrifice

Abraham then received a call from God asking him to sacrifice his son Issac. Abraham proceeds to do the same (Gen 22). The parallel story in Valmiki Ramayana is of Rama undertaking Aswamegha Yajna (Uttara 91-92). There is no story of sacrificing son Issac though. Rama is united with sons Lav and Kush during this sacrifice. Vimalsuri mentions the same uniting with sons during attack by the sons and mentions no sacrifice (99-100). The common strand is that of a sacrifice (Bible and Valmiki). This sacrifice is associated with sons—in Isaac’s sacrifice or in the union of sons with father.

Sarah dies and is buried

Sarah dies at Kirjath Arba (Hebron) and Abraham “came to mourn for Sarah and to weep for her” (Gen 23.2). The tone is as if Sarah died away from Abraham and he ‘came’ to mourn for her. The death of Sita is more dramatic in the Indian tradition. Rama asks her to take oath of chastity in public. She does this and enters Rasatala—the depths—which is similar to being buried in the earth (Uttara 97.19-20). Vimalsuri, however, says Sita became an ascetic (102.46).
Abraham dies soon thereafter and is buried with Sarah (25.8-9). Rama dies soon thereafter in the Indian tradition as well.”

It is pretty clear that the likelihood of Ram and Abraham being the same figure is very high. In Bible, God predicts that all the nations of the world will bless Abraham. But Abraham as is currently understood represents only Christians, Jews and Muslims. If the followers of Ram are included, then Ram-Abraham becomes a revered figure for almost all the nations of the world.

There are differences of course in some descriptions in Quran and Bible too. In Bible, it is Isaac who is put to the test of sacrifice while in Islamic literature it is Ismail. There is no mention of Abraham and Ismail building Ka’ba in Bible. The story of Abraham smashing idols is there in Islamic and Biblical sources but is missing in Valmiki Ramayana.

Islam’s Position

It will be worthwhile here to make Islamic position clear regarding certain issues because most of Hindus do not understand this.

1. Most Hindus tend to understand that Islam is a religion founded by Muhammad in Arabia. In Islam, Muhammad is not the founder but the ultimate figure in the long process of the establishment of God-directed system in the world. It began with Adam (or anyone else in Hinduism who is considered father of the current human race.) Many Islamic scholars believe (based on some ahadith and a quote of Ali) that, after descent from Garden, Adam started his worldly life in India. Incidentally, Adam may well be a derivative of Sanskrit word Aadi or Aadimanav. From Adam through tens of thousands of Guides and Ambassadors, it reached the ultimate destination, Muhammad who was declared the Last Ambassador of God and the Quran the Last Book of God. All the guides and Ambassadors were true devotees of God who preached that God alone is to be worshipped and everyone must work righteously and his deeds will be judged in the Afterlife.

2. Rama/Abraham is considered to be the patriarch in all Semitic religions and occupies a very high position among the guides and Ambassadors of God. In Islam, the Darud Shareif which is recited in every single prayer (Namaz) mentions the name of Abraham/Ibrahim along with Muhammad imploring God to bless Muhammad the way He blessed Ibrahim. (Jai Muhammad and Jai Sriram may be the short Hindi versions of Darud).

3. Abraham/Ram dynasties produced some of the most remarkable figures in Arabia including Moses, David, Solomon, Jesus and Muhammad. (Peace be upon all of them!)

4. In Islam, no prophet or Ambassador can ever ask for his own worship or worshipping of idols. But the followers of many of them distorted the original concept and started worshipping idols. Further, Abraham/Ibrahim is particularly known for smashing idols.

5. In Islam, which is the Arabic word for “Peace in submission to God”, the whole universe has been created by One God and is following the Laws of Nature created by God. Every other entity, howsoever big, powerful or pious, is his creation and any creation cannot be worshipped in place of or along with the Creator.

In short, Abraham/Ram may well be the connecting figure between all the great religions including Islam and Hinduism. If his true message is understood, it will not be difficult to conclude that Islam represents his religion sent by God and finalized and perfected by Muhammad (PBUH) for all times to come.

All the religions need to unite together to fight the immoral system established by the anti-God ideologies. Unfortunately, the religious organizations and movements have become centred more around religious identity and hatred for others rather than on religious morality and love for others. The religious and the protagonists of religions have to recognize the fact that the challenge in the present world to them is not from other religions but from the ideologies that seek to commercialize human susceptibilities through misguided concepts aimed at political and economic hegemony rather than a cleaner, healthier and more peaceful world. Hindus and Muslims of India should ideally take a lead in this campaign.

(Dr Javed Jamil is India based thinker and writer and Head of Chair in Islamic Studies & research, Yenepoya University, Mangalore, with over a dozen books.)

17 thoughts on “Is Ram of Valmiki Ramayana same as Abraham of Bible?

    1. Ibraheem Bhai, this is Zahir with whom you stayed overnight during Ramadan when you came to K-zoo Ibraheem Bhai, this is Zahir with whom you stayed overnight during Ramadan when you came to K-zoo (WMU), MI. I am also friends with your former “neighbor” Mr. Ahsanul Haque, another Bihari in the wider Chicagoland area. (O’Hare).
      Details aside, who are you trying to appease? BJP/RSS/majority Hindus? Let us not forget that over thousand years of mini-sultanates of Delhi, some of whom left great legacies behind, like GT road, Qutub Minar, Taj Mahal were not dumber (and remained so). They could not do so. It is God the Almighty that (mis)guides. It is not research. Should I suggest a future empirical project? Historically, it is assumed Adam was sent to earth via Ceylon (Sri Lanka). Bibi Hawwa is buried in Jeddah. Is there any connection, rational reasoning? That might be more convincing. Further, academic exercise worth a research is why all monotheists are so deadly against any kind of idol worship? Why they all want to get rid of all icon worship? Best of luck! Stop!(WMU), MI. I am also friends with your former “neighbor” Mr. Ahsanul Haque, another Bihari in the wider Chi.
      Details aside, who are you trying to appease? BJP/RSS/majority Hindus? Let us not forget that over thousand years of mini-sultanates of Delhi, some of whom left great legacies behind, like GT road, Qutub Minar, Taj Mahal were not dumber (and remained so). They could not do so. It is God the Almighty that (mis)guides. It is not research. Should I suggest a future empirical project? Historically, it is assumed Adam was sent to earth via Ceylon (Sri Lanka). Bibi Hawwa is buried in Jeddah. Is there any connection, rational reasoning? That might be more convincing. Further, academic exercise worth a research is why all monotheists are so deadly against any kind of idol worship? Why they all want to get rid of all icon worship? Best of luck! Stop!

      1. I expected better English from you, assuming you are living in US.

        How did you conclude “It is not research.” He is working on this for many years and has studied in depth before writing this article.

        Also, please clarify what do you want to know about Adam/Hawwa story.

        I did not understand when you say ‘why all monotheists are so deadly against any kind of idol worship?’ I assume you are a Muslim given you name, so you must be aware why idol worship is opposed in Islam and other monotheist religions. This is the very base of Islam.

        Lastly, maybe you did not read the whole article that’s why you are asking whom he is trying to appease. Go read the article till the end, and you may figure out why he did this research.

        Best of luck.

  1. Interesting article but i think there’s a great deal of wishful thinking in this comparison. While there are parallels, these may be due to borrowing of myths and legends from one culture to another rather than actual personalities being the same.

    After centuries and millenia it is the rituals and religious practices of the religions which disprove this hypothetical comparison more than anything else, which have been religiously practiced by followers over the millenia, and are living testimony to the teachings of the original founders.

    I give three examples.
    1) The Abraham of the Bible and the Quran is adamant about establishing monotheism so much so that he takes a covenant with God, a covenant which is then repeated by each of his sons and grandsons that they will not worship any but the One God who cannot be reduced to an idol. Consequently idolatry is vehemently opposed by followers of Abraham’s tradition to this day in particular by Jews and Muslims. Had the Ram of India been Abraham we would have seen some kind of an anti-idol narrative in ancient India but none is known as far as I’m aware. There’s no evidence from Indian sources that the Ram of India and his sons ever taught this kind of belief and no tradition exists in India of opposing idol making or idol worship.

    2) In Abrahamic faiths and traditions, the physical body is sacred and especially in Islam the body will be physically resurrected, that’s the reason that the body is carefully given a dignified burial. No such belief or tradition exists in Hinduism where at the end of one’s physical life the body is cremated by fire. Had Ram indeed been Abraham I would have expected the burial of bodies to have had an impact on Hinduism in India rather than cremation. I would have expected for the burial places in India of Ram and Sita and their sons to become symbols of veneration and pilgrimage. No such evidence exists to my knowledge.

    3) According to Abrahamic traditions one essential part of the covenant that Abraham took with God involved the physical circumcision of the foreskin of the penis by males. This tradition is followed by Jews and Muslims to this day. How come no such belief or practice or tradition exists among the Hindus of India and especially of those who claim to be descendants of Ram in India is a big question which needs to be answered by these scholars.

    However I do welcome this article and I hope it inspires more debate and discussion and look forward to the author’s further contribution.

  2. Dear Dr Javed Jamil,
    I have one small doubt, please clarify.
    One hadith mentions around 124,000 Prophets/ Messengers from time of Adam to Muhammed — peace be upon them, sent to all different geographical areas of the world to different tribes—were they all named after Abraham/ Abram/Ram ? or could they have been all different people sent to different tribes and communities ? — more sensible and more likely……

    1. We peyghambar dharti ke har hisse me aaye alag alag bhashon me we peyghambar aasman se nahi utre insanon ke khandano hi me janm liye the rahi murti puja ki bat to ye peyghambaro se bhi nahi ruki kaba me bhi 360 murtiyan thin pahle arab culture bhi murti puja karta tha har qom me murti puja thi peyghambaro ne roka zaroor tha lekin kisi ke mandir nahie tode the

  3. The Curse of the Brahmins

    The Biggest stigma of a Rape victim is that she is not a virgin !

    But there is a solution !

    How to restore virginity as per the Hindoo Vedas – and Brahmin evil

    “A woman who has been unchaste should worship Siva in his calm aspect, Siva who is Kama.
    Then she should summon a Brahmin and give herself to him, thinking, ‘This is Kama who has
    come for the sake of sexual pleasure.’ And whatever the Brahmin wishes, the sensuous
    woman should do.
    For thirteen months she should honour in this way any Brahmin who comes to the house for the sake of sexual pleasures, & there is no immorality in this for “noble ladies or prostitutes ”

    Matsya Purana 70:40-60; cf. Mahabharata III:2:23.

  4. dindooohindoo

    Who is the Rama that Hindoos pray to ? Is it the limpet who called his father a
    sex maniac and a dment ? This is a God ?

    कच्चिद्धारयए तात राजा यत्त्वमिहागतः |
    कच्चिन्न दीनः सहसा राजा लोकान्तरं गतः || २-१००-६

    “My dear brother! Is the king alive, that you have come here? I hope the miserable king has not indeed departed to the other world, all of a sudden.”

    कच्चित् स्त्रियः सान्त्वयसि कच्चित् ताः च सुरक्षिताः |
    कच्चिन् न श्रद्दधास्य आसाम् कच्चिद् गुह्यम् न भाषसे || २-१००-४९

    “I hope you are pacifying the women well. Are they protected by you? I hope you are not believing the words of these women and not telling them the secrets.”

    आयः ते विपुलः कच्चित् कच्चिद् अल्पतरो व्ययः |
    अपात्रेषु न ते कच्चित् कोशो गग्च्छति राघव || २-१००-५४

    “I hope your income is abundant and expenditure, minimum. I hope your treasure does not reach undeserving people (brahmin madarchods), O, Bharata!”

    idam vyasanam aalokya raaj~naH ca mati vibhramam |
    kaamaeva ardha dharmaabhyaam gariiyaan iti me matiH || 2-53-9

    “Reflecting on this misfortune of the king and his mental derangement, I deem that passion alone is greater than early gain and religious merit.”
    ko hi avidvaan api pumaan pramadaayaaH kR^ite tyajet |
    chanda anuvartinam putram taataH maam iva lakSmaNa || 2-53-10

    “what man however deluded, what father on account of a woman, at his own will and pleasure, abandon a son like myself?
    artha dharmau parityajya yaH kaamam anuvartate |
    evam aapadyate kSipram raajaa dasharatho yathaa || 2-53-13

    “He who pursues sensuous pleasures neglecting his real interests and discipline soon comes to distress;in the same way as king Dasaratha has.”

  5. What does Seeta think of Rama the Limpet Impotentica – when Ravana is describing
    the worthless Rama to Seeta ?

    Can Rama and Seeta be divine ?

    na deveSu na yakSeSu na ga.ndharveSu na R^iSiSu |
    aham pashyaami lokeSu yo me viirya samo bhavet || 3-55-20

    “I behold none matchable to my vitality is existent among gods; among yaksha-s – no; among gandharva-s – no; among sages – no, nor anyone in any world. [3-55-20]

    raajya bhraSTena diinena taapasena padaatinaa |
    kim kariSyasi raameNa maanuSeNa alpa tejasaa || 3-55-21

    “What can you achieve with that dethroned, hapless, seer, vagrant Rama who is short-lived, for after all, he is a human with littlest vitality? [3-55-21]

    sthaapayitvaa priyam putram raaj~naa dasharathena yaH
    |manda viiryaH suto jyeSThaH tataH prasthaapito vanam || 3-48-15

     “Though Rama is the eldest son, king Dasharatha established his dear son Bharata as king, and because Rama is spineless he is put to flight to forests, and now, what is he and what am I, in matter of sovereignty. [3-48-15]

    tena kim bhraSTa raajyena raameNa gata cetasaa |
    kariSyasi vishaalaakSi taapasena tapasvinaa || 3-48-16

    “Rama is subverted from kingdom, thus dwindled is valour, thus winded down is his anima, thus he has become a pitiable one, thus he became an ascetic as nothing else is there for him to undertake, oh, broad-eyed lady, what do you aspire to do with such a Rama? [3-48-16]

    Hanooman describes “Rama’s limpdick to Seeta Chammiya” (Chapter 35 of Sundara Kandam)

     “His wrists, Fists and Chest are strong; his eyebrows, arms and foot are long. his knees, foot , hair ends are even; testicles; stomach and chest are elevated; his forehand, foot,eyecorners are red; lines on his soles, hair in the head and tip of his penis is smooth.”
     “He has 3 folds in neck and belly. his nipples, soles, lines on the soles are depressed. He has a foot which does not show off the nerves, hair roots with single hair, small membrame virile, a navel without any flesh and a round head.

  6. Abraham had many sons, through Keturah:

    “Now the sons of Keturah, Abraham”s concubine: she bare Zimran, and Jokshan, and Medan, and Midian, and Ishbak, and Shuah. And the sons of Jokshan; Sheva, and Vedan.”

    Perhaps Sheva and Vedan is the ancestors of Indian, they was idol worshipper-.according to hebrew legends- thats why Abraham sendt them away from his first born son, give them their inheritance, gold, silver etc to the far east, which is propably India. They build there Mohenjo Daro and Harappa and they kept the storys about his father.

  7. The Proof that Seeta Maiya went willingly with Ravana as she was a lonely and sexually frustrated Nepali whore.dindooohindoo

    The fact that Rama was an impotent limpdick and a gay pansy,is undisputable – so we leave that at this stage

    PART 1

    1st let us settle the matter that Seeta was a lonely,frustrated Nepali whore

    Book III : Aranya Kanda – The Forest Trek

    Chapter [Sarga] 53

    ईदृशम् गर्हितम् कर्म कथम् कृत्वा न लज्जसे |
    स्त्रियाः च हरणम् नीच रहिते च परस्य च || ३-५३-७

    “A woman, that too a lonely one, that too the other man’s wife, that too an abduction, but not winning or wooing her… you knave, on your undertaking such a kind of deplorable deed, how unashamed are you? [3-53-7]


    PART 2

    It is said that if Ravana touched any woman with intent of lust, he would die

    Let us 1st prove that the Ravana touched Seeta with intent of lust.He described Seeta’s breats and nipples etc. – but that is passe,as that is just vocabulary

    There is specific reference in the Ramayana that RAVANA TOUCHED SITA MAIYA WITH INTENT OF LUST

    Book III : Aranya Kanda – The Forest Trek

    Chapter [Sarga] 49

    Ravana who is “infatuated with lust” picked her up, which lady is disinclined for any kind of sensuality and who is verily writhing like the wife of King Cobra, and then he surged skyward and flew off with her in his air-chariot. [3-49-22]

    ताम् अकामाम् स काम आर्तः पन्नग इन्द्र वधूम् इव |
    विवेष्टमानाम् आदाय उत्पपात अथ रावणः || ३-४९-२२

    Then people say that Ravana DID NOT TOUCH THE BODY OF SEETA MAIYA ! Lies

    This is proof that Ravana touched her body,waist and naked thighs

    Book III : Aranya Kanda – The Forest Trek

    Chapter [Sarga] 49

    वामेन सीताम् पद्माक्षीम् मूर्धजेषु करेण सः |
    ऊर्वोः तु दक्षिणेन एव परिजग्राह पाणिना || ३-४९-१७

    He that Ravana grabbed the lotus-eyed Seetha on lifting her up with his left hand at her plait of hair at nape, and with his right hand at her thighs. [3-49-17]

    ततः ताम् परुषैः वाक्यैः अभितर्ज्य महास्वनः |
    अंकेन आदाय वैदेहीम् रथम् आरोपयत् तदा || ३-४९-२०

    Then he whose voice is strident that Ravana lifted her up by her waist and got Vaidehi up on the air-chariot intimidating her with bitter words. [3-49-20]




  8. Really felt happy to find such an article…. There are possibilities for these to go true…. But I have a doubt , whether the bibilical story is a copied and modified version of valmiki ramayana or the bibilical story is the true story? The story that evolved out first could be the true story…. I wish to know which comes first…

  9. You all have written like a fools, don’t have full information about Hindu religious books like Veda, Puran and Upnishad. I have seen people have fake profile commented here with wrong information. This is due to low mental condition you all can not accept this truth that Sri Ramchandra is Param Bramh who us incarnation of Bhagwan Vishnu Narayan, supreme personality of God head. You can read if you fools have any knowledge of Hindi language. संसार में अब तक ३०० रामायण की कथाएें लिखी जा चुकी हैं ।
    वेदों में राम का वर्णन है ।
    वेद में श्रीरामोपासना की प्राचीनता बतायी गयी है। ऋग्वेद के १०४१७ मन्त्रों से १५५ मन्त्रों, एक मन्त्र वाजसनेयी संहिता से तथा एक अन्यत्र संहिता से लेकर, नीलकण्ठ-सूरि ने ’मन्त्ररामायण’ नामक एक प्रख्यात रचना की थी ।
    जिस पर’मन्त्ररहस्य-प्रकाशिका’ नामक स्वोपज्ञ व्याख्या भी की थी। इससे प्रमाणित होता है कि सृष्टि के प्राचीन काल से ही श्रीरामोपासना सतत चली आ रही है। अब इस रामोपासना की अविच्छिन्नता पर विचार करते हैं। उपनिषदों में भी श्रीराम-मन्त्र का वर्णन आया है।
    श्रीरामतापिनी उपनिषद की चतुर्थ कण्डिका-
    “श्रीरामस्यमनुंकाश्यांजजापवृषभध्वजः। मन्वन्तरसहस्रैस्तुजपहोमार्चनादिभिः॥
    ऋग्वेद के दशम् मण्डल के तृतीय सूक्त के तृतीय ऋचा में राम कथा का विवरण है :—
    भद्रो भद्रया सचमान आगात्स्वसारं जारो अभ्येति पश्चात्।
    सुप्रकेतैर्द्युभिरग्निर्वितिष्ठन्रुशद्भिर्वर्णैरभि राममस्थात्॥
    (ऋग्वेद १०।३।३)
    भावार्थ: श्री रामभद्र (भद्र) सीता जी के साथ (भद्रया) [ वनवास के लिए ] तैयार होकर (सचमान ) दण्डकारण्य वन (स्वसारं) यहाँ पत्नी अर्थ में )जब आये थे (आगात्) , तब (पश्चात ) कपट वेष में कामुक (जारो) रावण सीता जी का हरण करने के लिए आया था (अभ्येति ), उस समय अग्नि देव हीं सीता जी के साथ थे ( अर्थात स्वयं सीता माँ अग्नि में स्थित हो चुकी थी राम जी के कहे अनुसार), अब रावण वध के पश्चात, देदीप्यमान तथा लोहितादी वर्णों वाली ज्वालाओं से युक्त स्वयं अग्नि देव हीं (सुप्रकेतैर्द्युभिरग्निर्वितिष्ठन्रुशद्भिर्वर्णैरभि) हीं शुभ-लक्षणों से युक्त कान्तिमयी सीता जी के साथ [सीता जी का निर्दोषत्व सिद्ध करने के लिए] श्री राम के सम्मुख उपस्थित हुए (राममस्थात्) |
    काशी में श्रीराममन्त्र को शिवजी ने जपा, तब भगवान् श्रीरामचन्द्र प्रसन्न होकर बोले:-
    -रा. ता. उ. ।४।७॥“
    अर्थात्- हे शिवजी! आप से या ब्रह्मा से जो कोई षडक्षर-मन्त्र को लेंगे, वे मेरे धाम को प्राप्त होंगे। पुराणों,पाञ्चरात्रादि ग्रन्थों में भी रामोपासना का विधिवत् वर्णन पाया जाता है। अगस्त्यसंहिता, जो रामोपासना का प्राचीनतम आगम ग्रन्थ है, के १९ वें अध्याय तथा २५ वें अध्याय में भी रामोपासना का वर्णन पाया जाता है। बृहद्ब्रह्मसंहिता के द्वितीय पाद अध्याय ७, पद्म पुराण उत्तर खण्ड अध्याय २३५ तथा बृहन्नारदीयपुराण पूर्व भाग के अध्याय ३७ से यह स्पष्ट हो जाता है कि श्रीरामोपासना तीनों युगों में होती आयी है। इस तथ्य से सम्बन्धित कुछ वाक्यों का अब हम सिंहावलोकन करते हैं। महारामायण (और ऐसे और भी ग्रन्थों में) तो स्पष्टतः- श्रीरामजी ही स्वयं भगवान् हैं ऐसा कहा है:-
    इसी सन्दर्भ में याज्ञवल्क्य संहिता की यह पंक्ति भी उल्लेखनीय है:-
    -(याज्ञवल्क्यसं., ब्रह्मसंहिता)
    पुराणों में तिलक स्वरूप श्रीमद्भागवतम् में इस से सम्बद्ध कुछेक प्रसङ्ग देखें:-
    किम्पुरुषे वर्षे भगवन्तमादिपुरुषं लक्ष्मणाग्रजं सीताभिरामं रामं तच्चरणसन्निकर्षाभिरतः परमभागवतो हनुमान् सह किम्पुरुषैरविरतभक्तिरुपास्ते ॥
    -(श्रीमद्भा. ५।१९।१॥)
    (अर्थात्, किम्पुरुष वर्ष में श्रीलक्ष्मणजी के बड़े भाई आदिपुरुष, सीताहृदयाभिराम भगवान् श्री रामजी के चरणों की सन्निधि के रसिक परम भागवत हनुमान् जी अन्य किन्नरों के साथ अविचल भक्तिभाव से उनकी उपासना करते हैं।) आगे श्री शुकाचार्यमहाराज श्रीरामजी को परब्रह्म तथा सबसे परे मानते हुए छः बार ’नमः’ शब्द (षडैश्वर्य युक्त सूचित करते हुए) एवं नौ विशेषणों का प्रयोग करके यह सिद्ध किया है कि भगवान् श्री राम पूर्ण ब्रह्म हैं:-
    ॐ नमो भगवते उत्तमश्लोकाय नम आर्यलक्षणशीलव्रताय नम उपशिक्षितात्मन उपासितलोकाय नमः साधुवादनिकषणाय नमो ब्रह्मण्यदेवाय महापुरुषाय महाराजाय नम इति ॥
    -(श्रीमद्भा. ०५.१९.००३ ॥)
    और आगे तो कह ही दिया –
    “सीतापतिर्जयतिलोकमलघ्नकीर्तिः (श्रीमद्भा. ११।४।२१)” ।
    इतना ही नहीं। योगीश्वर करभाजन राजा निमि को यह बताते हैं कि कलियुग में भगवान् की स्तुति इस प्रकार करते हैं-
    ध्येयं सदा परिभवघ्नमभीष्टदोहं तीर्थास्पदं शिवविरिञ्चिनुतं शरण्यम् । भृत्यार्तिहं प्रणतपाल भवाब्धिपोतं वन्दे महापुरुष ते चरणारविन्दम् ॥
    – (श्रीमद्भा. ११.०५.०३३ ॥)
    त्यक्त्वा सुदुस्त्यजसुरेप्सितराज्यलक्ष्मीं धर्मिष्ठ आर्यवचसा यदगादरण्यम् । मायामृगं दयितयेप्सितमन्वधावद् वन्दे महापुरुष ते चरणारविन्दम्
    – (श्रीमद्भा. ११.०५.०३४ ॥)
    (अर्थात्, प्रभो आप शरणागत रक्षक हैं।
    आपके चरणारविन्द सदा-सर्वदा ध्यान-करने योग्य, माया-मोहादि से उत्पन्न सांसारिक पराजयों को समाप्त करने वाले, तथा भक्तों को समस्त अभीष्ट प्रदान करने वाले कामधेनु स्वरूप हैं। वे तीर्थों को भी तीर्थ बनाने वाले स्वयं तीर्थ स्वरूप हैं; शिव, ब्रह्मा आदि देवता उन्हें नमस्कार करते हैं। सेवकों की समस्त आर्ति और विपत्ति के नाशक तथा संसार-सागर से पार जाने के लिए जहाज हैं। महापुरुष! मैं आपके चरणों की वन्दना करता हूँ। भगवन्! पिताजी के वचनों से देवताओं द्वारा वाञ्छनीय और दुस्त्यज राज्यलक्ष्मी को छोड़कर आपके चरण कमलवन-वन घूमते रहे। आप धर्मनिष्ठता की सीमा हैं। हे महापुरुष! अपनी प्रेयसी के चाहने पर जान-बूझकर मायामृग के पीछे दौड़्ते रहे।प्रभो! मैं आपकी उन्हीं चरणों की वन्दना करता हूँ।) ध्यातव्य है कि यह ध्यान किसी और का नहीं वरन् अशरण-शरण सीता पति भगवान् राम का है। अर्थात् भागवतकार का स्पष्ट निर्देश है कि कलियुग में तो केवल भगवान् श्री राम की ही स्तुति वाञ्छनीय है। पद्मपुराण में पार्वतीजी शिवजी से यह प्रश्न विष्णोःसहस्रनामैतत्प्रत्यहंवृषभध्वज ।नाम्नैकेनतुयेनस्यात्तत्फलंब्रूहिमेप्रभो ॥
    – (पद्मपु. उत्तरखण्ड ७१।३३०)
    तो महादेवजी का उत्तर है-
    रामरामेतिरामेतिरमेरामेमनोरमे ।सहस्रनामतत्तुल्यंरामनामवरानने ॥
    – (पद्मपु. उत्तरखण्ड ७१।३३१, २५४।२२)
    स्वाभाविक रूप से यह प्रश्न उठता है कि ऐसा क्यों? तो इसका भी उत्तर पद्म-पुराण में ही है-
    विष्णोरेकैकनामैवसर्ववेदाधिकंमतम् ।तादृङ्नामसहस्राणिरामनामसमानिच ॥ यत्फलंसर्ववेदानांमंत्राणांजपतःप्रिये ।तत्फलंकोटिगुणितंरामनाम्नैवलभ्यते ॥
    – (पद्मपु. उत्तरखण्ड२५४।२७-२८)
    अर्थात्, श्रीविष्णुभगवान् के एक-एक नाम भी सम्पूर्ण वेदों से अधिक माहात्म्यशाली माना गया है।ऐसे एक सहस्रनामों के तुल्य रामनाम के समान है। हे प्रिये (पार्वती)! समस्त वेदों और सम्पूर्ण मन्त्रों के जप का जो फल प्राप्त होता है, उसके अपेक्षा कोटि गुणित फल रामनाम से ही प्राप्त हो जाता है। नारद पुराण तो यहाँ तक कहता है किसी भी मन्त्रों (गाणपत्य, सौर, शाक्त, शैव एवं वैष्णव) में वैष्णव मन्त्र श्रेष्ठ है। और वैष्णव-मन्त्रों से भी राम-मन्त्र का फल अधिक है। तथा गाणपत्यादि मन्त्रों से तो कोटि-कोटि गुणा अधिक है। और सभी राममन्त्रों से भी श्रेष्ठ है षडक्षरराम-मन्त्र :-
    “अथ रामस्य मनवो वक्ष्यन्ते सिद्धिदायकाः। येषामाराधनान्मर्त्यास्तरन्ति भवसागरम् ॥ सर्वेषु मन्त्रवर्येषु श्रेष्ठं वैष्णवमुच्यते ।गाणपत्येषु सौरेषु शाक्तशैवेष्वभीष्टदम् ॥ वैष्णवेष्वपि मन्त्रेषु राममन्त्राः फलाधिकाः। गाणपत्यादिमन्त्रेभ्यः कोटिकोटिगुणाधिकाः ॥ विष्णुशय्यास्थितो वह्निरिन्दुभूषितमस्तकः ।रामाय हृदयान्तोऽय महाघौघविनाशनः ॥ सर्वेषु राममन्त्रेषु ह्यतिश्रेष्ठः षडक्षरः ।ब्रह्महत्या सहस्राणि ज्ञाताज्ञातकृतानि च ॥“ – (नारदपुराण।पूर्वभाग।तृतीयपाद।अध्याय ७३।१-५)
    पद्म-पुराण और राम-रक्षास्तोत्र भी इस तथ्य पर अपनी सहमति इस प्रकार देते हैं:-
    – (रामरक्षास्तोत्र)
    “षडक्षरंमहामंत्रंतारकंब्रह्मउच्यते ।येजपंतिहिमांभक्त्यातेषांमुक्तिर्नसंशयः ॥ इंदीवरदलश्यामंपद्मपत्रविलोचनम् ।शंखांगशार्ङ्गेषुधरंसर्वाभरणभूषितम् ॥ पीतवस्त्रंचतुर्बाहुंजानकीप्रियवल्लभम् ।श्रीरामायनमइत्येवमुच्चार्य्यंमन्त्रमुत्तमम् ॥ षडक्षरंमहामंत्रंरघूणांकुलबर्द्धनम् ।जपन्वैसततंदेविसदानंदसुधाप्लुतम् । सुखमात्यंतिकंब्रह्मह्यश्नामसततंशुभे ॥
    -(पद्मपु. उत्तरखण्ड २३५।४३-४५,६३)”
    अगस्त्यसंहिता के अनुसार-
    और वाराह संहिता तो डिम-डिम घोष कर कह रहा है –
    भगवान् श्री राम की सर्वश्रेष्ठ-भजनीयता सतत रूप से आज भी दर्शनीय है।आद्यजगद्गुरुशंकराचार्य अपने रामभुजंगप्रयास्तोत्र में भगवान् श्री राम की श्लाघनीय स्तुति की है जनके कुछ श्लोक उद्धृत किये जा रहे हैं :-
    “विशुद्धंपरंसच्चिदानन्दरूपंगुणाधारमाधारहीनंवरेण्यम्। महान्तंविभान्तंगुहान्तंगुणान्तंसुखान्तंस्वयंधामरामंप्रपद्ये॥१॥
    (अर्थात्, जो शुद्ध सच्चिदानन्द परमात्मस्वरूप हैं, सर्वथा निराधार होते हुए भी सभी गुणों के आधार हैं, सर्वश्रेष्ठ हैं, सबसे महान् हैं, प्रत्येक प्राणी के हॄदय-गुहा में विराजमान हैं, अनन्तानन्त गुणों की सीमा हैं और सर्वोपरि सुखस्वरूप हैं, उन स्वप्रकाश स्वरूप भगवान् श्री राम की मैं शरण ग्रहण करता हूँ।)
    “शिवंनित्यमेकंविभुंतारकाख्यंसुखाकारमाकारशून्यंसुमान्यम्। महेशंकलेशंसुरेशंपरेशंनरेशंनिरीशंमहीशंप्रपद्ये॥२॥”
    (अर्थात्, जो परम कल्याण-स्वरूप, त्रिकाल में नित्य, सर्वसमर्थ, तारक राम के नाम से प्रसिद्ध, सुख के निधान, आकार शून्य, सर्वमान्य, ईश्वर के भी ईश्वर, सम्पूर्ण कलाओं के स्वामी परन्तु उनका स्वामी कोई नहीं, सम्पूर्ण मनुष्यों के स्वामी, पृथ्वी के भी स्वामी पर उनका कोई शासक नहीं है; मैं उन भगवान् श्री राम की शरण लेता हूँ।)

  10. First of all abraham didn’t had concubines atleast not the muslim one and there were no pharaoh’s at his time pharaoh’s came after Yusuf I don’t know the English name.

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